Monday, November 15, 2010

Socialism, Capitalism, and the Bible? Part 1

Karl Marx (1818 – 1883)Image via Wikipedia I know what your thinking here, Oh great here we go again. Well, I've been on this subject for a few years now and got to talking to a few people about this very subject that made me realize that not to many people actually know what Socialism actually means.
Also note that I may have to make this in a part series of blogs so the study here is completely accurate. 
Now don't get mad at me here, Do your best to try to pay attention to everything I have to say here. I find that people tend to get mad and then start calling names about this issue mostly if this is what they have believed for such a long time.
First off. What does Socialism Mean. Here is the Definition. From online Websters Located here.
 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism?show=0&t=1289866778

Definition of SOCIALISM

1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done 
Now that seems like a lot to describe so far. Yet I'm not done. First off here is the Definition of  Capitalism located here. 
http://www.aolsvc.merriam-webster.aol.com/dictionary/capitalism

Definition of CAPITALISM

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
 OK. Now some may say that this might just be so the Rich can get richer. Its corrupt and won't let the poor have a chance to make it anywhere. 
I have to say this is not true. But more on that later.
  
 Now, What about the Bible? I cannot count how many times I have heard over and over about how God and the Bible is Socialism, Now, in the process through my time of being saved I used to think this was true myself. However there are some very good arguments out there and they use Bible scripture to even support it right. Just like this page here.
http://atheism.about.com/od/thebible/a/communism.htm
The book of Acts has two explicit passages depicting the very communistic nature of the early Christian community:
    All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. (Acts 2:44-45)
    There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. There was a Levite, a native of Cyprus, Joseph, to whom the apostles gave the name Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”). He sold a field that belonged to him, then brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. (Acts 4:34-37)
    Not into reading it? Here a video to see more on the subject. 

    Well by golly if Marxism is good enough for the early Church then it should be good enough for us Right? lol I'm sorry after watching this again it really makes me laugh. lol
    How did I actually think back then that is was true? Well he quoted some scripture. So that makes it right, Right?
    There are more, and again there are more sentences from the Bible that when not read as a whole, (You know like the whole chapters and the entire books themselves.) It would make sense. It did for me for a few years. At least all the way up until I read the whole Bible a couple of times.
    More on this side later.
    One thing the Bible did for me was it got me totally interested in History. A subject I used to hate now is one of my favorite issues of study. Why? Because it shows how real the Bible actually is.
    So now that we see a few sentences in the Bible that shows Socialism is in the Bible. Note also that Hitler said the same thing. Lets take a longer look at Socialism throughout history and the past. Along with Scripture.
    First I want to look at Scripture Starting from the beginning. Lets see God gave dominion, land, over all things. I don't see a Government here in control of it all.
    Adam and Eve.
    Genesis Chapter 1
    Please feel free to read the whole chapter located here.
    http://kingjbible.com/genesis/1.htm
     
    26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
    28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
    29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
    30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
    OK, Well that don't line up with Socialism. Let's jump further to Job.
    Job 1
    1 In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil.  
    2 He had seven sons and three daughters,  3 and he owned seven thousand sheep, three thousand camels, five hundred yoke of oxen and five hundred donkeys, and had a large number of servants. He was the greatest man among all the people of the East.
    4His sons used to take turns holding feasts in their homes, and they would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
    5When a period of feasting had run its course, Job would send and have them purified. Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking,
     “Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” This was Job’s regular custom.
    Wait a minute Job was RICH? Then again God let satan take it away but then, God gave him back twice as much? All because he stayed Faithful to God. He owned his own property? The Government didn't redistribute it?
    Well that's not socialism either.
    More from the Bible again here shortly. Let's take a look at another take and the Idea in Socialism.
    Capitalism and the Bible - Free videos are just a click away
    Sorry for the sound here but you know how video is on the net. Now let's take yet another look at the reality of Socialism.

    Now I have to admit at first I was very confused about all this. Being that School systems in America no longer seems to teach this stuff to the children let alone my own generation. If you noticed in Jack's Van Impe's Video here he begins to start naming off some very interesting names. All of them with a Socialist's mind set.
    Now I have heard all my life that Socialism is about helping the poor and it was for the people. I have also heard that God wants us to redistribute the wealth. But, truthfully I have not found that in the Bible. Going back to Acts. Of the New Testament. I decided to look more into these verses.
    Act's 2
    Please read the whole Chapter again.
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+2&version=KJV
    45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
    46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
    47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
    I began to realize that this is only the Church and not Government like the definition says above. Again as you go into Chapter 4
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%204&version=NKJV
     
    32 Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common.

    33 And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus.
    I began to realize that this was only with Believers and again not Government. So as always I began to ask many questions. Like, Is God wanting us to be Socialized? Does God run as a dictator? A communistic God? My brain cannot think of God being this Evil. So I began a deep study on Socialism what does it actually mean? Then again. You have to start with the definition.

    Definition of SOCIALISM

    1
    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3
    : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done 


    Now as I started listening more to those beliefs of God's Socialism I began to see they wind up using the top of this definition and not the whole definition. 
    Problem with this is. It cannot be separated. Socialism is the entire definition. Not just part of it. The I found out where Socialism came from. Not just the meaning of it but the actions of it. After all Faith without Works is dead right?
    I ran across this first.

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    And this. 



    Then I ran into several sites and history links that talk about Socialism. Saying things like this.
    http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?cat=124
    World government and world socialism. Those are the explicit goals of the Socialist International (SI), one of the planet’s most influential organizations, but one that is virtually unknown to the vast majority of Americans, since it is rarely mentioned in the major U.S. media.
    This entire study got me so deep into something I never really expected to see. I had no idea about the Real truth and the real Evil principalities behind it all. Not only in Governments, Schools, The Work Force and basic everyday life. But you would not believe on how much of the Socialistic doctrines I found within so many Churches around the World.
    I will be posting up part 2 here shortly. The History of not just the world but also in Bible explains so much more about everything I found. If you are one of those bent on Socialism and thinking that somehow it means to Be Social and give to the poor. Among all the rest of what I thought? Then this series is going to really burst your little bubble your in.
    Get ready to learn a lot more about Socialism, Capitalism and what is really in the Bible.
    May God help us all.

    http://todaysworldnewsinfo.blogspot.com/2010/11/socialism-capitalism-and-bible-part-2.html
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